02/05 Patch Notes - Doom Aporia Raid

06 February 2025

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Uvt
Uvt02/22/2025 03:22

If this website allowed me to post pic, then I'll just post my current +10 VoS with 52,59% gauge :')

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Ritsu
Ritsu02/22/2025 18:01

You can though image.png

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Uvt
Uvt02/24/2025 12:21

Doesn't show that in my screen dude, Only:

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I think its an admin only feature or must login? idk

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/24/2025 16:07

Probably a login thing, I can see it on my end and I'm not an admin.

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Ritsu
Ritsu03/21/2025 11:10

You must login because otherwise we would have bots spamming adult content.

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Qij
Qij02/20/2025 09:40

two weeks in and this raid has drawn the most obnoxious end gamers in the community out into the usual community spaces. it really is making them whine about how it's just so hard for them while they show just how divorced they are from reality and from the average player's experience. i haven't seen this many people complain about the most out there and asinine things anyone could about the game. their economy theorizing and number wankery almost completely removed from the actual gameplay experience is amazingly delusional and pretentious. if i thought the game's plot was up it's own anus, then these people are far past "taking themselves and their own crap seriously".

(not to say the stat numbers aren't a factor at all, just that given even the stuff of the game that still resembles a beat-em-up even a little, they're ignoring other more tangible things that people have practical/hands-on experience with.)

if these are the smarmy idiots making guides and the people the devs are taking feedback from, then it's no wonder things have gotten to where they are now. they can't help newbies, they don't know mid-game, and they actually think rng isn't the primary factor in their current positions at this point. i could almost appreciate the whales who admit to and flaunt being whales; somehow, they're tending to be the least obnoxious people in the endgame spaces and they're the most aware of their own situations.

the sunk cost fallacy among these people makes las vegas gamblers look financially responsible. but that's raid meta, and that's what happens when people say "normal" this and that while whining about people not enabling their mediocre situations and passing it off as "making do" and "rational sound-minded critique". being at this point won't make people lose themselves. people have to be lacking in self-awareness to reach this point in the first place.

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Qij
Qij02/21/2025 21:33

"boo hoo, the freebies they keep giving to everyone is an insult to all my hard work and time spent, oh woe is me"

you are in an mmo that is live and still getting updates. you are in an mmo with desperate and clueless elitists prowling the highest levels of its content feeding into processes that have already crossed the threshold of being a preposterous requirement, chasing promises of power that will always be fleeting. you are in an mmo whose developers (and the publisher holding their leash) never learned to stop putting absurd and predatory demands on its lowest paying playerbase since their last game that they recently dragged out of retirement.

your self-righteous toil was and is not going to be respected and it's never earned any admiration.

here's a piece of finger-wagging that's also applicable to any form of entertainment and recreation you get up to as it is in real life: have goals that aren't garbage and have methods that aren't stupid, then your effort will be worthwhile regardless of how much or how little of it you (feel you have to) give. effort has almost no inherent worth or meaning on its own, and no one owes it any sucking up regardless of how much of it you waste.

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/21/2025 22:18

OMG, yes!! I remember there was this one guy on Youtube (I forgot his name) who 1. complained about the Apo-Void weapons being better than the weapons of the time-limited raids, and 2. claiming that the Apo-Void dungeon was outright piss-easy (I don't think that's actually what they said, but you get the point). And every time I hear that, the same two thoughts come to my head.

  1. This is an MMO! MMOs get updates to keep the game fresh! Newer and stronger weapons are practically a given and are always going to be released until the game dies, especially because newer content typically requires that your own characters get stronger than they were for the older content! And also, it's fucking stupid for the best equipment in any game, not just MMOs, to be something you can only get for a limited time, 'cause if you miss that time period, either because you took a break from the game during that time and didn't even know it was happening or because you didn't even have an account during that time, or even if you actually did try to get that gear but weren't able to, you're gonna be SOL!

  2. Just because you're strong enough and/or skilled enough to clear content without effort doesn't mean that other players won't struggle with it! They are not you! They will not play exactly the same way you do, and they will have different areas they struggle with than you do! If it's content that's gonna give you what is, at the time, the best gear of the game, then they're gonna design it to try to be at least somewhat difficult for the required CP!

And the fact that that guy just doesn't get either of those things, even after I tried to explain them to him, just baffles me!

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Nasa Peepo
Nasa Peepo02/18/2025 04:57

I'm unsure how they expect this to fare outside of KR servers where the amount of players with the required stats are comparatively lower. The requirements are very intense.

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i love u
i love u02/17/2025 14:56

I have a question about Damage Reduction. Does Serpentium Raid's Security System Core have no Damage Reduction figures? And there is a 50% difference in Damage Reduction between Stage 3 and Stage 4, but that part seems to have not been reflected. Could you please check again about Damage Reduction in general?

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Ritsu
Ritsu02/17/2025 20:43

Hi! For the phase 1 boss, it was missed indeed. Added just now. Do note, if you mouseover the ones marked with a dotted underline, additional information will be shown. The second dungeon bosses were using Damage Reduction stats from difficulty 4 on all difficulties – this is also fixed now. Please be aware that this information is not guaranteed to be accurate – we have to do some guesswork to estimate it sometimes. Always test! And if you get any reliable results, we’d like to see them to accurately modify the values.

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i love u
i love u02/18/2025 09:26

Thank you! I'll let you know quickly if I find any information that I think is inaccurate!

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Someone
Someone02/14/2025 00:25

More raids. Normal dungeons no longer exist.

Want to play just for the story? You can't even do that anymore, if you don't have 10kk+ CP and you're not in a guild. Don't have friends? You screwed up. Solo mode (1 player) just for the story? NO. It never will.

It's the raidfest era, the game was totally geared towards the taste of Korean players, who are mostly a bunch of hardcore and lifeless fanatics.

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Ritsu
Ritsu02/14/2025 11:47

Normal dungeons exist, but they are nothing like normal dungeons from the past, more like mini-raids.

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/09/2025 11:33

Small question, but which accessory slots take priority in terms of visuals?

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Ritsu
Ritsu02/09/2025 13:17

Should be avatar accessories, so the same as armor/weapon.

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SleepingOwl5334
SleepingOwl533402/06/2025 17:30

Is there any image of the new EP shop acessories?

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Qij
Qij02/12/2025 15:52

https://elwiki.net/w/Elrios_Guardian_Knights

no image of them actually on the character yet it seems.

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Sol
Sol02/06/2025 15:11

Yay, more content that I can't access for at least another 2 years, if I'm lucky. Then they release another raid for more weapon at that point

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Qij
Qij02/06/2025 05:43

500 ep per thing... i'd say being bankable is much more generosity than i thought they were capable of, but i don't know yet if they're character specific or not.

i'm probably too illiterate and /or lacking context to really figure out what's going on with the set effects list thing. guess maybe i'll just find out when it gets here and pester someone about it for help.

filling up gauge for raid accessory only at a difficulty higher than 1

what manner of

getting raid weapon only at minimum difficulty 3

ocean of diarrhetic pig defecation

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/06/2025 09:47

filling up gauge for raid accessory only at a difficulty higher than 1

getting raid weapon only at minimum difficulty 3

KoG, what the hell?!

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Qij
Qij02/07/2025 06:45

i'm not the guy who goes "ded game" because this thing has outlasted preposterous disasters that have killed other games.

but uh... funeral dress IB? after a decision this bad and this huge? the allegations are eating better than the players that hold to them.

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/06/2025 04:44

Gonna be honest, I'm not sure restricting the Set Effects for the new slots is really necessary. I'm kinda curious about the new Elrios Guardian Knight's accessories, though more so with their appearance than their stats. But I hope they at least have some individual stats and aren't there purely for the set effect.

Oh gee, a new weapon with Growth Missions. Sigh I kinda wish they'd either make Growth Missions per character/account rather than per weapon or just do away with them entirely and make the effects default.

But hey, at least the Magic Wardrobe UI is finally updated! ... After how long...? I do kinda get that things can take a while, but I honestly feel this took too much time to get implemented. Better late than never, I guess, but now I'm worried about how long the rest of the stuff will take.

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Qij
Qij02/06/2025 05:44

well, to find out a general "time it takes for them to give in to community demands regarding major improvements", i'd presume we can find the average between the time it took for them to implement re-awakening for everyone since Ain's release, the time it took for them to renew MW's ui since the modern ui started really becoming a thing, and the time it took for them to [some other third thing the community wanted that they got after a long time} and use that as the best case estimate for improvements to happen.

but i don't know if that third thing exists (it likely does and i just can't think of it), and i'm not counting hair-dyeing for it because they botched that, and also

i don't wanna dig into archives just to math this :V

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/06/2025 07:00

They literally could've saved the Hair Dyeing mechanic by just simply selling an item for precise hair dyeing. That's what Closers does. But instead, they outright force us to RNG it for just the slim possibility of getting the color you want. I mean, sure, you can get it, but really, who's gonna buy the dyes if it's all RNG? That's why I only ever use the event Dyes, and only on hairs that I might use but also might not use.

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Flare Kyn
Flare Kyn02/11/2025 08:13

Good news, I just saw on the wiki that the Elrios Guardian Knight's accessories do have individual stats. They're individually about as good as Item Mall accessories, though.

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Qij
Qij02/12/2025 15:49

but they are character specific. well, still bankable at least. (and also they look kinda neat)

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i love u
i love u02/06/2025 04:16

I'm looking forward to the new raid's hp, def information

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Mini Ritsu
Mini Ritsu02/06/2025 09:16

Sadly, it will not be possible anymore for all future content. They deleted this data from the client, so we cannot access it. It was never part of the client anyway. The only way to know defense is manual testing now. And naturally, testing HP accurately would be hard, since the result screen does not factor overkill and is affected by lag.

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i love u
i love u02/07/2025 09:29

It's really sad. I desperately hope that we can find another way. Thank you for everything you've done

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Ritsu
Ritsu02/10/2025 16:20

Hey there! I'm excited to announce that we got all the stats - via an anonymous donator. You can check everything here: https://cobodex.eu/dungeons/39

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i love u
i love u02/12/2025 11:46

This is a great pleasure. Thank you!! Looking forward to the Wilting Spire and KR 2025-02-13 stat changes as well!

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Lilicow
Lilicow02/06/2025 03:55

im so fucking tired man

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Herrshie
Herrshie02/06/2025 02:55

Fuck off

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anonymous1
anonymous102/06/2025 02:39

How is this game still going?

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bruh
bruh03/19/2025 17:19

literally people say this bullshit every year

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Zava
Zava02/06/2025 02:00

Yay, from one raid to another one. (Bye more % of the shy players).

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